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89 changes: 83 additions & 6 deletions region/maridia/inner-yellow/Butterfly Room.json
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{
"id": 3,
"link": [1, 1],
"name": "Zoa Farm",
"name": "Zoa Farm (From Ledge)",
"requires": [
{"refill": ["Energy", "Missile", "Super"]}
]
{"or": [
{"and": [
"Grapple",
{"cycleFrames": 180}
]},
{"and": [
{"cycleFrames": 300},
{"or": [
"Spazer",
"Wave",
"Plasma",
"canDodgeWhileShooting",
{"enemyDamage": {"enemy": "Zoa", "type": "contact", "hits": 1}}
]}
]}
]}
],
"farmCycleDrops": [{"enemy": "Zoa", "count": 3}]
},
{
"id": 36,
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{
"id": 30,
"link": [2, 2],
"name": "Zoa Farm",
"name": "Zoa Farm (From Ledge)",
"requires": [
{"refill": ["Energy", "Missile", "Super"]}
]
{"or": [
{"and": [
"Grapple",
{"cycleFrames": 180}
]},
{"and": [
{"cycleFrames": 270},
{"or": [
"Spazer",
"Wave",
"Plasma",
"canDodgeWhileShooting",
{"enemyDamage": {"enemy": "Zoa", "type": "contact", "hits": 1}}
]}
]}
]}
],
"farmCycleDrops": [{"enemy": "Zoa", "count": 3}]
},
{
"link": [2, 2],
"name": "Zoa Farm (In Sand, Strong Weapon)",
"requires": [
{"or": [
"HiJump",
"Gravity",
"canEscapeSand"
]},
{"or": [
"Spazer",
"Wave",
"Plasma",
"Grapple",
{"and": [
"Gravity",
"ScrewAttack",
{"cycleFrames": 30}
]}
]},
{"or": [
"canDodgeWhileShooting",
{"enemyDamage": {"enemy": "Zoa", "type": "contact", "hits": 1}}
]},
{"cycleFrames": 130}
],
"farmCycleDrops": [{"enemy": "Zoa", "count": 3}]
},
{
"link": [2, 2],
"name": "Zoa Farm (In Sand, Power Beam)",
"requires": [
{"or": [
"HiJump",
"Gravity",
"canEscapeSand"
]},
{"or": [
"canTrickyDodgeEnemies",
{"enemyDamage": {"enemy": "Zoa", "type": "contact", "hits": 1}}
]},
{"cycleFrames": 165}
],
"farmCycleDrops": [{"enemy": "Zoa", "count": 3}]
},
{
"id": 31,
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"requires": [
{"resetRoom": {"nodes": [1]}},
{"or": [
"Spazer",
"Wave",
"Plasma",
"canUseGrapple",
"ScrewAttack"
{"and": [
"Grapple",
{"cycleFrames": 180}
]},
{"and": [
{"or": [
"Plasma",
"Wave",
"Spazer",
"ScrewAttack"
]},
{"cycleFrames": 210}
]},
{"and": [
"canFarmWhileShooting",
{"cycleFrames": 330}
]},
{"cycleFrames": 400}
]}
],
"farmCycleDrops": [{"enemy": "Puyo", "count": 2}]
},
{
"link": [1, 1],
"name": "Puyo and Choot Farm",
"requires": [
{"or": [
{"resetRoom": {"nodes": [1]}},
{"and": [
{"resetRoom": {"nodes": [2]}},
{"cycleFrames": 120}
]}
]},
{"partialRefill": {"type": "Energy", "limit": 200}},
{"partialRefill": {"type": "Missile", "limit": 12}},
{"partialRefill": {"type": "PowerBomb", "limit": 6}}
{"or": [
"canWalljump",
{"and": [
"SpaceJump",
{"cycleFrames": 300}
]},
{"and": [
"canTrickySpringBallJump",
{"cycleFrames": 520},
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A little bit high

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Fair enough, this was the last case I checked and I was getting tired of the room, haha. Tightened it now.

"h_doubleEquipmentScreenCycleFrames",
"h_doubleEquipmentScreenCycleFrames",
"h_doubleEquipmentScreenCycleFrames"
]}
]},
"canDodgeWhileShooting",
{"or": [
{"and": [
"Plasma",
{"cycleFrames": 820}
]},
{"and": [
"Grapple",
{"cycleFrames": 900}
]},
{"and": [
"ScrewAttack",
{"cycleFrames": 1000}
]},
{"and": [
"Wave",
{"cycleFrames": 1080}
]},
{"and": [
"Spazer",
{"cycleFrames": 1140}
]},
{"cycleFrames": 2040}
]},
{"and": [
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I thought tests caught top-level and now

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Good catch. Looks like the tests checked and inside of and but not and at the top level. Added that now. There weren't too many violations so I went through and fixed them all.

"canFarmWhileShooting",
{"cycleFrames": 500}
]}
],
"farmCycleDrops": [
{"enemy": "Puyo", "count": 4},
{"enemy": "Choot", "count": 3}
]
},
{
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},
"devNote": "Max extra run speed $0.8"
},
{
"link": [2, 2],
"name": "Choot Farm",
"requires": [
{"resetRoom": {"nodes": [2]}},
{"or": [
{"and": [
"Grapple",
{"cycleFrames": 100}
]},
{"and": [
"Plasma",
{"cycleFrames": 160}
]},
{"and": [
"Wave",
{"cycleFrames": 170}
]},
{"and": [
"Spazer",
{"cycleFrames": 200}
]},
{"and": [
"ScrewAttack",
{"cycleFrames": 200}
]},
{"and": [
"canPseudoScrew",
{"cycleFrames": 220}
]},
{"and": [
"canFarmWhileShooting",
{"cycleFrames": 250}
]},
{"cycleFrames": 300}
]}
],
"farmCycleDrops": [{"enemy": "Choot", "count": 1}]
},
{
"id": 15,
"link": [2, 2],
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}
}
},
{
"link": [1, 1],
"name": "Owtch Farm",
"requires": [
{"or": [
{"and": [
{"resetRoom": {"nodes": [1]}},
{"cycleFrames": 320}
]},
{"and": [
{"resetRoom": {"nodes": [2]}},
{"cycleFrames": 470},
{"or": [
"canWalljump",
"SpaceJump"
]}
]},
{"and": [
{"resetRoom": {"nodes": [3]}},
{"cycleFrames": 1680},
"canTrickyWalljump",
"canTrickyJump"
]}
]},
{"or": [
"Plasma",
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This should have a knowledge tech. Otherwise it either looks unkillable, or dies randomly.
canDodgeWhileShooting maybe, but I don't think hard knows that it dies when moving left even.

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Added canDodgeWhileShooting and a FIXME.

Kyle and I were talking the other day and wondering if we should have more enemy-specific tech, like we have for Mellas, Metroids, Big Boy, and crabs. In the past I've thought it can make things a little cluttered to have too many tech for specific things. On the other hand, tech notes can be a good place to explain enemy-specific techniques/knowledge. And we may be able to organize the tech better in a hierarchical way which can reduce the clutter. Owtches of course are less important than those other enemies that have their own tech. Just some thoughts. With the G-mode tech lately we have been breaking things down into a lot smaller tech, which I think can be helpful in making them more digestible.

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Specific enemy tech could be hard to place in one difficulty level. Like bombing off metroids, bombing in air, jumping over, grouping, and grouping without getting grabbed. (Even though Metroids have canMetroidAvoid tech). Owtches have can kill moving left, and can jump over fast moving enemy in water with low ceiling. Skultera can talk about rubbing enemies while frozen and how they lose height over time if there is a slope. Pirates range from shooting at them for no damage to crouching to angle turn cancelling towards them, and include hitboxing, and their collision box.

Breaking it down into smaller actions would mean adding the ability to make tech more navigable.

My reaction is that you want a small wiki page talking about how to deal with each enemy in the context of this randomizer. Weapon vulnerabilities is another thing that takes looking up but wouldn't be expected, leaving the strange cases as being harder to know about.

"Charge"
]},
{"cycleFrames": 300}
],
"farmCycleDrops": [{"enemy": "Owtch", "count": 1}],
"devNote": [
"The extra 300 frames is for waiting a random amount of time for the Owtch to go left.",
"The Owtch can also be killed with Screw Attack,",
"but farming the Rippers would make more sense in that case."
]
},
{
"id": 6,
"link": [1, 1],
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],
"flashSuitChecked": true
},
{
"link": [3, 3],
"name": "Ripper Farm",
"requires": [
"ScrewAttack",
{"or": [
{"and": [
{"resetRoom": {"nodes": [1]}},
{"cycleFrames": 780}
]},
{"and": [
{"resetRoom": {"nodes": [2]}},
{"cycleFrames": 710}
]},
{"and": [
{"resetRoom": {"nodes": [3]}},
{"cycleFrames": 1560}
]}
]},
{"or": [
"canConsecutiveWalljump",
{"and": [
"SpaceJump",
{"cycleFrames": 240}
]}
]}
],
"farmCycleDrops": [
{"enemy": "Ripper", "count": 6}
]
},
{
"id": 43,
"link": [3, 3],
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