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10 changes: 10 additions & 0 deletions region/brinstar/red/Red Brinstar Fireflea Room.json
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{"and": [
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"canNeutralDamageBoost"
]},
{"and": [
{"spikeHits": 1},
"canTrickySpringBallJump",
"canTrickyJump",
"canNeutralDamageBoost"
]}
]},
{"spikeHits": 1}
],
"note": [
"Crouch jump and Spring Balll near the peak of the jump to hit the side of the spikes and boost up onto them.",
"This is also possible with a springwall, or from standing on the spikes to avoid the crouch jump."
]
},
{
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3 changes: 2 additions & 1 deletion region/crateria/east/East Ocean.json
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"requires": [
"canSuitlessMaridia",
"canUseFrozenEnemies",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
"SpaceJump"
],
"flashSuitChecked": true,
"note": [
"In the center of the room, freeze the Skultera at the highest point in its cycle.",
"Then use a max height springball jump to escape the water and land on the above platform.",
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2 changes: 1 addition & 1 deletion region/maridia/inner-green/East Pants Room.json
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"name": "Max Height SpringBall Jump",
"requires": [
"canSuitlessMaridia",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
{"or": [
"can4HighMidAirMorph",
"canStationaryLateralMidAirMorph",
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2 changes: 1 addition & 1 deletion region/maridia/inner-green/East Sand Hall.json
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"canSuitlessMaridia",
"canTrickyUseFrozenEnemies",
"canPlayInSand",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
"canStationaryLateralMidAirMorph"
],
"note": [
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2 changes: 1 addition & 1 deletion region/maridia/inner-green/Oasis.json
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"canConsecutiveWalljump"
]}
]},
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump"
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump"
]}
]
},
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2 changes: 1 addition & 1 deletion region/maridia/inner-green/Pants Room.json
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"requires": [
{"notable": "Bomb Jump Water Escape"},
"HiJump",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
"canSpringFling",
"canBombJumpWaterEscape",
"canJumpIntoIBJ",
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6 changes: 3 additions & 3 deletions region/maridia/inner-green/West Sand Hall.json
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{"notable": "Suitless Bootless Spring Ball"},
"canSuitlessMaridia",
"canPlayInSand",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
"canStationaryLateralMidAirMorph",
"canInsaneJump",
{"or": [
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{"notable": "Suitless Bootless Spring Ball"},
"canSuitlessMaridia",
"canPlayInSand",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
{"or": [
{"enemyKill": {
"enemies": [["Evir"], ["Evir"]],
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{"notable": "Suitless Bootless Spring Ball"},
"canSuitlessMaridia",
"canPlayInSand",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
"canStationaryLateralMidAirMorph",
"canInsaneJump"
],
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4 changes: 2 additions & 2 deletions region/maridia/inner-pink/Aqueduct.json
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"canSnailClimb",
{"or": [
"Gravity",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
{"and": [
"HiJump",
{"or": [
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"canSnailClimb",
{"or": [
"Gravity",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
{"and": [
"HiJump",
{"or": [
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4 changes: 2 additions & 2 deletions region/maridia/inner-pink/Colosseum.json
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"requires": [
{"notable": "Bomb Jump Water Escape"},
"HiJump",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
"canSpringFling",
"canBombJumpWaterEscape",
"canJumpIntoIBJ"
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"canHorizontalDamageBoost",
{"spikeHits": 1}
]},
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
{"or": [
"canSpringFling",
{"and": [
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5 changes: 3 additions & 2 deletions region/maridia/inner-pink/Crab Shaft.json
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"canSuitlessMaridia",
"canSpringBallJumpMidAir",
{"or": [
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
"HiJump",
"canUseFrozenEnemies"
]}
]
],
"flashSuitChecked": true
},
{
"id": 34,
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29 changes: 22 additions & 7 deletions region/maridia/inner-pink/East Cactus Alley.json
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]},
{"and": [
"HiJump",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
"canTrickyJump",
"canStationaryLateralMidAirMorph",
{"cycleFrames": 1070},
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{"and": [
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"canSpringFling"
]},
{"and": [
"canTrickyJump",
"canLateralMidAirMorph",
"canTrickySpringBallJump",
"canSpringFling",
"h_complexToCarryFlashSuit"
]}
]}
],
"note": "There is just enough distance for a MidAir SpringBall jump to reach without HiJump."
"flashSuitChecked": true,
"note": [
"There is just enough distance for a MidAir SpringBall jump to reach without HiJump, with either a crouch jump or air ball.",
"To do this, pause and morph early in order to get a spring fling from equipping Spring Ball."
],
"devNote": "The h_maxHeightSpringBallJump is not a h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump, because Gravity is required."
},
{
"id": 21,
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"requires": [
"canSuitlessMaridia",
"HiJump",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"canTrickyJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
{"or": [
"canStationaryLateralMidAirMorph",
{"and": [
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"To get enough horizontal distance, either use a Stationary Lateral Mid-Air Morph with a crouch jump for extra height, or spin jump out before morphing.",
"Or SpringBall jump part of the way over and land on a Bomb explosion to cross the rest of the distance."
],
"devNote": "canStationaryLateralMidAirMorph is not strictly required but better describes the difficulty."
"devNote": [
"The canCrouchJump is not required but makes the strat easier",
"The canStationaryLateralMidAirMorph is not strictly required but better describes the difficulty."
]
},
{
"id": 23,
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{"notable": "HiJumpless Double SpringBall Jump and Bomb-Grapple-Jump"},
"canBombGrappleJump",
"canDoubleSpringBallJumpMidAir",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump"
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump"
],
"note": [
"1) Crouch jump and then SpringBall jump.",
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"requires": [
{"notable": "Bomb Jump Water Escape"},
"HiJump",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump",
"canSpringFling",
"canBombJumpWaterEscape",
"canJumpIntoIBJ"
],
"flashSuitChecked": true,
"note": [
"Perform the spring ball jump near max height.",
"Place the first bomb after the spring ball jump; just above the water line.",
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"requires": [
"canSuitlessMaridia",
"canPlayInSand",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump"
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump"
],
"flashSuitChecked": true,
"note": "It's possible to get out of the sand suitless and without HiJump after falling from the chute, by hugging the left side and moving quickly."
},
{
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"canSuitlessMaridia",
"HiJump",
"canTrickyJump",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump",
"canStationaryLateralMidAirMorph"
"canTrickySpringBallJump",
"canSpringFling"
],
"flashSuitChecked": true,
"note": [
"SpringBall jump just as Samus exits the water to reach the distant ledge.",
"A Crouch jump makes the SpringBall jump easier, but at the cost of some horizontal movement."
"In order to move horizontally far enough, quickly pause and morph in order to gain a Spring Fling as Samus equips Spring Ball.",
"This can be done from a spin jump or from a stationary lateral mid-air morph."
],
"devNote": "canStationaryLateralMidAirMorph is not strictly required but better describes the difficulty."
"detailNote": "There is a two-frame window for when Samus can jump after escaping the waterline. Starting from a crouch jump does not increase this window."
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I see 8 frames when doing the crouch jump + stationaryLateralMidAirMorph

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Weird, I was testing this, I must have messed something up. Maddo tested it and also agreed that there were 8. Without the stationary lateral, he was saying that he didn't make it far enough horizontally to make it to the ledge though.

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It also seems like the stationary lateral is required - and Maddo was saying that I was doing that from my spin jump.

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{
"id": 24,
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8 changes: 5 additions & 3 deletions region/maridia/inner-pink/West Sand Pit.json
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"canPlayInSand"
]},
"HiJump",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump"
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump"
],
"flashSuitChecked": true,
"note": [
"HiJump with a good jump from the sand can reach the Solid Rock Maze region. Use the sandfall if Samus gets stuck in the sand.",
"Bouncing on the sand as springball can reach the above maze by altering Samus' fall height, like by bouncing under the solid ledge before trying to jump up."
"Bouncing on the sand as springball can reach the above maze by altering Samus' fall height, like by bouncing under the solid ledge before trying to jump up.",
"Perform a max height Spring Ball jump, starting from a crouch jump, in order to make it up onto the ledge."
],
"devNote": [
"Jumping through the sandfall is failable enough to require canPlayInSand",
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"HiJump",
"h_crouchJumpDownGrab"
]},
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump"
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump"
]}
],
"flashSuitChecked": true,
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"name": "Suitless Springball Jump",
"requires": [
"canSuitlessMaridia",
"h_maxHeightSpringBallJump"
"h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump"
],
"flashSuitChecked": true,
"note": "This is a max height springball jump.",
"devNote": "FIXME add a slightly easier variant that damage boosts off of the Choot."
},
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"canSpringBallJumpMidAir"
]}
]}
]
],
"flashSuitChecked": true,
"devNote": "The h_maxHeightSpringBallJump is not a h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump, because Gravity is required."
},
{
"id": 109,
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}
},
"bypassesDoorShell": "free",
"flashSuitChecked": true
"flashSuitChecked": true,
"devNote": "The h_maxHeightSpringBallJump is not a h_underwaterMaxHeightSpringBallJump, because Gravity is required."
},
{
"id": 50,
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