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Ice beam crouch gate clip#2249

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@blkerby blkerby commented Aug 20, 2025

At higher speeds the frame window for the jump is larger but for me it didn't translate into feeling easier. I'm thinking this would probably be an Insane notable. You have to reset the room between attempts, and there's a possibility of the neighboring room being heated, which would be a particularly bad scenario.

Video by Sam: https://videos.maprando.com/video/7557

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I made it with 13 tiles but not with 11. I'm sure I could eventually get it if I spend longer at it. Insane seems right.

This may be a good time to add the CrouchGateClip from the right (no speed or morph). I find the jump easier, but it would be a softlock to miss so its overall worse.

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blkerby commented Aug 21, 2025

Hmm, interesting, didn't even know right-to-left could be done like that. It seems to require heavy arm pumping? With emulator slowdown (75% speed) I was able to get it a couple times out of a few hundred attempts probably. At full speed it didn't feel like I could even get close. So it seems way more difficult, more like Beyond territory. But maybe I'm missing something?

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osse101 commented Aug 21, 2025

I just got it 2/10 times. There is heavy arm pumping. You jump pretty close to the gate. That's why the left->right clips looked weird jumping from so far away, to me.
https://videos.maprando.com

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blkerby commented Aug 21, 2025

I managed to get it once at full speed now. I think the main issue for me was how the arm pumps affected the controller grip : I had been using a piano grip when going for a very short jump tap like this, but that didn't mix well with the arm pumps. Just not practiced at doing short jumps with my thumb 🤷

I did some TAS investigating to find out how much arm pumping is required. It wasn't as much as I thought, though more arm pumping makes the jump more lenient.

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