Colosseum with ice

[osse101]

I'm interested in moving Colosseum with just ice to Expert+ for being slow, and its a little risky with the sand. So this adds ice to the spike platforming so you stay off the sand.

[kjbranch]

I was having a bit of a hard time understanding the justification on splitting ice into two strats like this. Were you wanting to move the spike damage+ice or mochtroid damage+ice to expert+? (and the other remains in expert?) I can review this more and see if it makes more sense to me after getting that cleared up.

[osse101]

Yeah grapple doesn't look right being part of the strat so I'll look at removing that.

The idea is to only ice climb the left section and use spike platforming to cross the rest. There's a solid floor over there so we can reason that its to avoid manipulating the mochtroid while on sand. This is how I'd do the room if I had enough health.
Then the pure Mochtroid ice climb freezes the mochtroid from sand 3 times. This is the one I am calling harder and want to move to expert+.

[kjbranch]

So, if I have this all correct, the main strat youre editing has the notable Spike Platforming with Move Assist, which looks like its in Expert. It requires a wall jump, 2 spike hits, and either an insane jump or mochtroid hit

The strat youre planning on moving up to expert+ has the notable Mochtroid Suitless, HiJumpless Ice Climb. It has an insane jump or 3 mochtroid hits, and either patience or a wall jump.

So, I guess it just looks like the strat youre moving up to expert+ is actually never going to be used in expert+ because it is a higher difficulty and has more damage taken than the expert variant. Once you go to extreme, then it can be used though, because it has 0 damage taken and can be done walljumpless.

[osse101]

I see there's a Morph difference. Spike platforming with Ice doesn't actually need Morph but it helps makes the spike jumps easier.

And it looks like Bomb Jump Water Escape is the HiJump+Springball equivalent going the other direction so the SpikePlatforming+MoveAssist strats are broken up a little odd.

[kjbranch]

Oh, I didn't notice the Morph difference - that explains it. I think all of the edits look good to me. Do you want to edit the notable placement as well, so it doesnt get forgotten?